!Are you happy with the Satin? A sand/refinish of an existing floor = $4-$5/sf. WebWe just installed 5 white oak throughout our home. I also read you dont want to go too thin. Choosing finish on white oak floor. @Hughey do you know what process for bleaching? I DEFINITELY reccomend reading reviews for fabricators before choosing who you'll use . professional finishes are sold in gallons only. Start reaching out to those stores that have 25+ years in the hardwood flooring industry. In your photos, it actually looks like your parquet is made solid squares, nicer to see larger woodgrain patterns instead of the 4 or 5 slat in a checkerboard pattern(each "tile" would have 12 or 14 etc total slats in one 1 sf "tile". Bona I could also put hot pots on the stainless. The water-based products are also much easier to work with. I read on the Bona website (and others) that TrafficHD coverage was 350-400sf/gal. If that does something, it's busted, you don't need to test further. ?-- and liked playing around with it. Sample made on raw white oak during the decision process: two coats of Bona NordicSeal, top-coated with Bona Traffic Naturale. Your house lay out seems very much like ours! They are not even good choices for low care floors. I am very picky with the stones I purchase. I hope they hold up to daily use. Some of us dont have either the budget or access to a multitude of cabinet makers so trying to work with them on getting the desired finish. It was applied Saturday morning.". It is my impression that this as raw wood had less variation in color from one board to another and less pronounced grain and was a bit lighter than the American white oak or the other European white oak I saw. The bleaching added to the cost and another opportunity for something to go wrong. 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Floors are already sitting in the new house acclimating and I know that I am not cut out for the oil finish.). Eager to see what you chose and how it turned out. We will use 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD on top of the sealer. @ Moran.now I see where this has come up. Finished with three matte protective coats. So much to consider and my cabinet maker doesn't seem to be able to recreate what I am looking for. I acknowledged that there would be an upcharge for the TrafficHD and expected it. A unique way of customizing your floor from a light whitewash to successive coats, providing a truly Scandinavian look. I will post pictures. I wasnt wild about any of the patterns. The instructions on the bottle is straight forward. @Mary Elizabeth I think we have narrowed it down to Ciranova's products..after testing theirs, Rubio Monocoat and several Pallman's waxes, plus a number of normal stains. One other question. - I got the curved 1/4 backsplash (if you can call that a backsplash). WebBona - WM710013496 - 16.5 in. I did a lot of research and planned to try Bona NaturalSeal, Bona ClassicSeal and Bona NordicSeal on this round of samples. I believe there is a local one and I plan to at least explore that. Emily Henderson has a white metal railing in her split level home that is pretty gorgeous and widely photographed. Any suggestions on deciding one over the other? @j, @ Renee, It is satin. Sie knnen nicht notwendige Cookies ber Einstellungen verwalten ablehnen. Bona I will have to follow up. Look out for inexperience. D Debra Travis Red Oak Hardwood Floors Installing Hardwood Floors Natural Wood Flooring Decoration We refinishing the floor and apply natural seal from bona and top coat bona mega one satin D Sure, white kitchens are beautiful when theyre sparkling clean. G & S isn't bashing you, they are bashing the 'dudes' in the industry. So far, this seems to be going well. He can 'cut in' the edges of the floor with a brush, bite a sandwich, chew, take a drink, go toilette, come back and work the job with a T-barand STILL have time to go over several sections if it looks 'dry'. Im torn between satin and matte, We didn't move in yet so I cannot comment on it . I personally feel a reputable stone supplier and fabricator will educate you in mineral composition, stone formation, and inform you how and where the stones are quarried. Please continue to post pictures of your kitchen. Carly, we are trying to decide between Bona Classic Seal or Natural Seal? @mtpo did you ever post final pictures of your floor? * I didn't know that Classic Sealer added yellow that Natural Sealer did not but I didn't have anything to compare it to. If you you know you are doing something we offer on floor samples (3x3) in many combinations and finishes. And I do find myself wishing I had done 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD - just to give them more protection. (Ive read LOTS of old posts!). That seems light to me, but he said it was sufficient (that word doesnt make me feel convinced). Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. Absolutely, I can see that. I think they are some discussions on houzz regarding that. Nice when a risk pays off . We peeked through the windows and the floors are covered with brown paper. I used a custom color mix of about 2/3 mist and 1/3 white stain. Out of curiosity what width floorboards did you use (and which manufacturer did you go with)? If so, they are normal surface marking, nothing to worry about. The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. WebWe ended up using one coat of Bona natural sealer and two coats of HD matte on the floors. You have NOT hired installer yet! Would love to hear from anyone who has sampled these Sealers and what they thought. I will ask him about Poloplaz Pearl and Pallman products as well.Would you suggest a satin or matte finish? Je peux rejeter les cookies non essentiels en cliquant sur Grer mes prfrences . If you said you wanted the look of 'raw wood' then matte is what they would have brought. @widdy23 Seems like everything is taking longer than expected. We have 4 inch white oak installed, but I was reading through your post and have no clue where they are from. You only need an inch. @Lisa Pearen it would help with identification if you post photos. Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. But was the Bona Traffic absolutely clear? Are You Gutsy Enough to Paint Your Floor White? WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. Held off on final coat until project finished.. which will be done in a few days. (I didnt think about this before adding the bookcases.) As for the cost of install$5/sf with FULL SPREAD glue + stain + sanding + finish (materials extra) is on the low side. white oak hardwood flooring. Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. I believe they put Bona Mega One over the top just for example, but we will be using Bona Traffic HD. It still should not come off. We recently installed new white oak hardwoods and did not like the color they turned out and will be refinishing them again - would love to get it right second time around (felt the floors looked a lot different when complete than our small sample in round one). Christina check out Rubio monocoat Gris belge Havana Slate grey These greys are very popular and with the matte sheen you will absolutely love them. This is what G & S was responding to.a quick scan of your answer (I'm guilty of it myself some times) can give the impression that everything was done same day (which it wasn'tbecause I asked about the LAST coatnot the timeline to reach last coat). You should look it up. So due to budget going to have to give this a go on my own. I have been on these boards so many times looking for advice and photos from what others have done. They can use a big machine with a screening pad to get up most of that gunk. Unfortunately I don't remember how many layers of each. He can work a section. :), McCarthy September 15 2020 post question about last sentence, or anyone please+sealant. . Many, many, many more professional grade finishes. Beyond The Grain Custom Design, Toms River, NJ (2023) I plan to call the Bona company tomorrow to get their assistance. STAIN OR LEAVE NATURAL??? Bona A best fit can also include their 'interpretation' of your 'vision' (not theirs). Make sure your floor guys are real professionals and have experience using Bona. Milesi or Renner, etc etc. Never to be heard from again. Can you apply the Bona NaturalSeal and then apply a couple coats of something like the Renner? I had some 2 x 2 Corian samples that kept calling my name. However, as you can see from the photo, after the first coat, yellow dominated the room. I am sorry , Thank you!! Watching them put it on, it doesnt look like the work applying it would be more than other finish products. That means you relate clean with shiny. In real life, they dont have as much brown as in the photo. Your wood may take the coats differently than our wood. Color we like the Bona Nordic best and the Bona Natural second, but they both have a muddy haze when you see them in real life. I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. He had 15 years of experience doing only floors and was highly recommended to me. There are MANY people who do NOT know they are 'clean-shiny' people until they purchase matte floors. WebIt was natural that he should seek an education in that city and from that institution, for both were allied to him by ties of no ordinary significance. It would have been better to ASK if they put on all 3 coats in one day. Forget prefinished. Houzz nutzt Cookies und hnliche Technologien, um Ihre Benutzererfahrung zu personalisieren, Ihnen relevante Inhalte bereitzustellen und die Produkte und Dienstleistungen zu verbessern. Thanks for the responses. Its for a new build. It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. If you search my other discussions on this site, youll see how I flip-flopped so many times Corian, stainless, Neolith, D e k t o n, Quartz, wood (for the island top) and finally back to Corian. Yours looks so light and bright. You only need an inch. One coat Bona Natural Seal A very slight natural stain similar to the white oak color of our floors. Think NCAA and NBA courts. Refinish Red Oak Flooring How Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. The 'raw' look is a special look. Thanks so very much Shannon. It is the single most abused/used FINISH ('finish' means 'pretty) in your home. By clicking Accept I agree to this, as further described in the Houzz Cookie Policy. I think we found a good match. Oak floors are beautiful and timeless. Why did you decide to go with Corian? Thank you for your input. Would love to see finished product! Which is why I posted asking for people's experiences today, but I never received any replies. Did G & S need to tell me, Well see how long this finish lasts? No. Snowy cabinets and walls speak to a certain elegance, while marble counters whisper of luxury, Give your joints a break while you're standing at the stove, with these resilient and beautiful materials for kitchen floors, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, 7 Kitchen Flooring Materials to Boost Your Cooking Comfort. @Ashley Your floors look beautiful. I absolutely love the floors. We see it FAR to often (as in DAILY) on this forum. They make their final grit-pass and then they will place the colour samples down with a coat of finish. ), Make sure your installer has experience using the Bona products and especially the Nordic. They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. did you have a contract or at least an email stating you wanted white oak? Full text of "Report of the Commissioner of Education" Working Bona Traffic is 10x harder than off the shelf stuff. We elected to go with rift sawn white oak cabinets. Achieving a Natural, Untreated Look on Red Oak Double cost any standard stained finish. Bona Traffic (original) is two steps up from Mega. The lowest level of gloss I suggest to 'clean-shiny' person is semi-gloss. For a house your size and a $50k budget. (Please do not tell us to order pre-finished floors or use an oil finish. Thanks for sharing these pictures - they look great! Painting Floor Tile or replacing floor tile, Politique d'Utilisation des Cookies de Houzz. Was a bit of a risky choice, went with a pretty unusual/bold extra wide 5" wide pattern and I think it turned out well. I disagree that it was not an attack on me as G & Ss follow up comment said, oh yeah, hidden message. Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. That's how building law works. The cabinets and a new layout transform a once-dark New Jersey kitchen into a light and bright space, Its typically the primary color in gardens. Can you add some white to the Renner System? It offers a bigger margin of profit. The webpages say that Classic "highlights the natural color of the wood" while Natural is "designed to retain the appearance of unfinished wood" but having seen the raw, sanded wood which was remarkably gray, I don't know how the latter is possible. We are prepping for a remodel and I have been using my kids roll of art paper and taping it to the ceiling to construct mock ups of potential walls. How are things holding up a ~year later? white oak floors, stain them or leave natural? My installer has Amber i think yhat will be too dark. The contractor has also suggested one coat of Loba 2K Supra on top. Prevent the tannin pull so common with white oak. I also have some design software that may help with your need. Bona NordicSeal to Create a Whitewashed Hardwood Floor BTW after the fabricator installed the countertops (and carefully covered them to protect them), other contractors uncovered them and used them as a work bench and scratched them up - a lot! In real life, they look lighter and more uniform in color than shows up on my iPhone. My question to tcrp6566 is did you use a sealer first? My kitchen is the opposite of yours with white cabinets and gray countertops and I like the way my natural white oak floors warm it up. If ending up with the typical honey oak is my only choice, then I'd rather just get painted maple/mdfwhich isn't what I want! Due to it's ingredients, It is mainly used for custom color mixes with dyes and Bona's sport paint line for insane color schemes. If he can't get it donethen hire someone NEW and send the bill to the original contractor. Bona is designed to be 'hot coated' that is to say it does BEST when coat 1 and coat 2 (like sealant and then 1st coat of finish) come in quick succession (less than 24 hours but nothing less than the 'minimum time between coats'). Attached is a photo of the hardwood unfinished without stain. Really not read much about IntenSeal? The reason: they turn orange. BTW, we used Corian old fashioned solid surface Corian in our kitchen and in 2 bathrooms. I don't want shine either - so do I do the sealer of Natural and then do an extra matte finish? What is your installer recommending? Ask youself, do you WANT to see a floor that shines AFTER you clean it? And cure times are the BEST case scenario (temps and humidity are ASSUMED to be PERFECT = they NEVER are in a home setting = please leave an extra day). Some comments that NaturalSeal has a slight white cloudiness? For those asking to see Intense Seal on white oak. The picture I attached is with one coat of Bona Mega using no stain. WebBona ClassicSeal Floor sealer highlighting the wood's natural color Size: 1 gal Find a distributor Information Documents Key benefits Minimizes tannin bleed, especially on white oak Exceptionally clear, highlighting true color of wood VOC Compliant Seals the wood, preventing the finish from penetrating Information Compare that to the 2 MINUTES you have with Bona! These posts priceless. If you don't like the look of "honey oak" then don't use oil based finishes. So it comes in at 1025 or 1.25 X 820 sf (amount of flooring ordered with sufficient for waste/scrap. These people end up crying themselves to sleep because they HATE their floors (and the massive price tag they just paid for). think it turned out well. We told the company to put 3 coats of the Bona product on the floors. The floors are being installed and finished by Brazilian Floors (they have several locations in the D.C. metro area). If you like to see a shiny floor RIGHT AFTER you clean the floor (because it makes you feel like you've accomplished something) then you are what I refer to as a 'clean-shiny' person. It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. They do their own fuming there I found it interesting to learn about that too. I do love the natural color. Thank you for posting a picture! They either look to white/milkey or they are orangish yellow. Share pics of white oak hardwood floors stained with Bona (1st home!). Thanks again! Use Bona Naturaseal for the look you want. You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. @Ryan Danielson, I just told my cabinet maker to go ahead and order my cabinet doors in the rift oak so I've only got a couple of weeks to get this figured out. The light white washing will give you the raw look. Yours in Floors Zach Liske Floor Huggers. I am on info overload. Brazilian Floors did the installation and finishing. My guess would be red oak since they have gone more orange. You will save a little compared to Traffic HD, perhaps $0.25 psf. Give a price you can make a living off of and let someone else win the low ball estimates. If it does nothing: Take a piece of masking tape (not painters tape). Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. Im very happy with them and they are exactly the look I wanted. They bring in wood from various locations. I had a question as to why you decided only to do one coat of Nordic as opposed to the recommended two? It looks like the grain is *very* deep on the board to the left. But I miss a slightly shiny floor. less. The tile on the back wall of the shower and the backsplash is a soft baby blue glass. The cost of the floors is such a big expenditure that I didnt even ask the installer if or how much he was charging me for the samples I chalked it up to the overall cost of the floors. That leave NaturalSeal, ClassicSeal and IntenSeal. That's what I ended up doing. (The Classic has less of a haze.) I will mention some Quartzites have a higher level of porosity and should be sealed regularly. I always keep at least 100 bundles of stone in stock that I personally hand pick so I purchase thousands of slabs a year. Oak floors are beautiful and timeless. Our cabinet maker will be finishing them, not us. Cochrans offers this wood in different thicknesses and grades which also impacts the price. I should add that I planned to use Bona Traffic HD finish as well since I read how durable it is and how it goes on clear without yellowing the wood. Here are some of my samples. I'll be sure to question about their history with using bona in the past. The coating should not come up. We even "fumed" a few boards in a fuming tent, and they just didn't look as good as the waxes/oils. If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. Question - is there a reason a floor may take or need less finish? Take the time to try all of the sample combinations. Im happy with the color. white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances. Paint them over a piece of white paper and the finish turns orange all by itself! The floors are super dusty in this photo as the soffits were just removed. Traditionally you will ask for QUOTES and then VIEW their work (photos or in person if they have clients who offer their home as a 'show piece' = very rare) and THEN you hire the person who as the best "fit" for your needs. Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. NO true Quartzite will etch. @Moran Blueshtein, We are having about 3500 sq feet of the wood installed and finished plus stairs. All of their materials will have to be paid for (as part of your contract), but it can be done. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. Matte looks a bit dull. White Oak - which Bona sealer I love your base molding, where do you buy that from? Thank you. Or is Minwax and Duraseal the same thing? Granite and Quartzite have completely different make-ups. Amber did of course have the amber/yellow tone - though not as much as I expected. I just got samples and have found mixing the white with mist gives almost an exact color for unfinished white oak. @tkgriff Love the floor. No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. There are some finishes that are a 'high-gloss satin' but I don't know where Bona Traffic HD satin sits on the glossy or not gloss level. Is the Nordic still a problem? Make warm gray your new go-to neutral, Find the right local pro for your project, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, https://sprucingupmamahood.com/provenza-vinyl-flooring-review/, 5 Essential Moves for Classic Scandi Style, Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists, Natures Color Wisdom: Lessons on White From the Great Outdoors, What to Know About Engineered Wood Floors, Maison & Objet: Art Deco and a Return to Elegance, Color of the Week: Decorating With Warm Gray. WebHealthsmart: 640-8174-1900HS, Healthsmart - 640-8174-1900HS - HealthSmart Steel Shoe Horn 24", White, HealthSmart Steel Shoe Horn 24" L, White, Epoxy-coated Steel If that does something, it's busted, you don't need to test further. If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. And dont go forward unless they are willing to give you samples with ALL the finished coats. Argh. Did 4 coats of nordic and 3 traffic hd on 1 dollar a sq foot utility 4 inch white oak but some was red oak as well but still my dog likes it. Red oak floors look horrible, help with light stain colors needed! Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. My suggestion is to figure out what type of 'cleaning' person you are. For a clean-shiny person there is NOTHING that will make them happy in the matte or satin range. First - The second pic you gave looks really weird. But they did just complete a project with Bona NordicSeal. (BTW - We ran into the issue with getting character grade mixed into our select a bit too, very frustrating!). If you want a bit of "yellow depth" to the floor, then work with an oil modified. I did a lot of research and planned to try Bona NaturalSeal, Bona ClassicSeal and Bona NordicSeal on this round of samples. Bona Intense Seal Bona Classic Seal Bona Neutral Seal DuraSeal Weathered Oak Stain DuraSeal Silvered Gray Stain Bona Drifast Stain The Finish We Chose You may not be aware of the fact that white oak floors do not need to be stained. And the professional you spoke to is correct: the 'hand sanding' is NO WHERE NEAR the same finish/product as the machine with 'final-grit' sanding. @mtpo - Your floors look BEAUTIFUL, thank you for sharing the pics, I can't wait to see the final product. Quartzite is a metamorphic stone.. Sandstone converts to Quartzite from extreme heat and pressure. The 'oil based' finishes that base costs of a finish allow 45 MINUTES of wet edge. I think over the years, they learned how to avoid distressed clients who hate the finished floor color. wipe down a 1ft x 1ft section with a lightly water damp cloth to see what I mean).
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