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Your comment could not be farther than the truth! Join Facebook to connect with Andrew Katrinak and others you may know. Then you claim this is an opinion. That is not just a circumstantial case, that is both circumstantial and forensic, and it is pretty air tight. All of them returned without a DNA analysis because they contained no root material. She was bubbly and likable, not disgruntled, according to friend Kathy Barber, who visited her friend in jail. Am I missing something? Does it actually have to be an obligatory duty for anyone to be present at a trial before they are able to have an opinion? If I rolled my eyes any harder they might fall out. The authorities charged her with two counts of murder. Rorrer killed two peoplea young mother and her small child and thru the justice system got what the bitch deserved! Your position Ive read a lot, Im right; you disagree with me, Ill say youre a moron. Another point is the theory developed by the cops that the victim (Joann) was shot just one time and then bludgeoned to death. Let me ask youWhy do most of those who post adverse and hateful comments feel the need to? He had worked as a semi-pro boxer in Las Vegas in his youth and later settled into his own construction business. ``She was real good with kids, good to mine at least,' Jost said. Police slowly built a case against Patricia. The attorney, Craig Neely, also argues he has the testimony of a police officer who worked on the case to back up his claim, according to the report. Lie detectors are pseudo science. ), The Wrong Man investigators Ira Todd and Joe Kennedy have some theories of their own. That phone call came in on December 7, 1994. Am I supposed to believe that she was still so enraged a week later, that she drove almost 10 hours, in a conspicuous van with a bad U-joint, to kill this woman and her baby? According to Pennsylvania State Police, Rorrer met Andrew Katrinak, the husband and father of the victims, in 1986. Phone records dont lie.) Rorrer was convicted at trial in March 1998 of kidnapping Joann Katrinak, 26, and her 3-month-old son, Alex, on Dec. 15, 1994, from their Catasauqua home, shooting Katrinak in the face, and leaving her and the child in the woods in Heidelberg Township. Lived In Drake CO . Men who murder are conventional, women are sensational, posits the Worldwide Womens Criminal Justice Network. Forensic tests suggested the hair found in the car and at the murder scene came from Patricia. Plus, he had only a minimal life insurance policy on Joann and he passed polygraphs, according to The FBI Files: Family Secrets. Police believe Rorrer abducted and killed her ex-boyfriend's wife and infant son in Pennsylvania. They noted houses near the murder scene would have heard a gunshot in December, when no farm equipment is making noise, and question why the murderer didnt just kill Joann inside her house instead of risking being seen in public in her car. It showed her usually all-brown hair haphazardly highlighted blond. Nope. Theres a similar air of confusion connected to the Scott Peterson debacle. Andrew Katrinak is never more than a foot away from his telephone. Irelands husband buried it in the yard because he didnt feel comfortable with a firearm inside, she said. Required fields are marked *. His wife's vehicle was discovered in a parking lot 100 yards away from their house. Theyre just not willing to investigate/research as to the truth. And while youre on that list, you can be happy in the knowledge youre not in rarefied company. After her arraignment, she had to walk past a crowd of dozens of locals screeching hang her! and baby killer! Patricia clung to a Polaroid picture showing her and her own little girl. The police report misspells his name (Troutman) and doesnt include his address, suggesting authorities didnt want anyone to track him down, according to Patricias side. If I knew I was going to get caught, I never would have brought you into this world, the arresting officers testified they heard her say to Nicole. I thought the same. Let me simplify this for you in religion, one is taught there is a God. Yet, you have a story like Darlie Rutier who supposedly stabbed herself seriously enough that was centimeters from her carotid artery, yet this woman is in prison still? Rorrers filed multiple appeals over issues you raise, the latest recently and rejected. She said that shes no fan of Forensic Files and that the show had many misrepresentations about her case and that shed heard ForensicFilesNow.com mixed up some facts as well. ), And in another bombshell, Joanns good friend Karen Devine said Joann planned to leave Andrew after the holidays. A few fries short of a Happy Meal, that one. Agree with all you say but theres so much more involving incompetence, corruption, evidence tampering and then witnesses, in Rorrers favour, who were not disclosed to her defence her trial (something they were legally obliged to do). The number of delusional people in this world both shocks and frightens me. Did you personally attend the trial? Andrew J Katrinak, age 68, Drake, CO . Published: 20:58 EST, 3 March 2023 | Updated: 21:02 EST, 3 March 2023. There are those on this very site who express their disappointment she was not executed. He had an attractive new wife and beautiful baby boy. Clifford Freeman, were you a juror? If you can tear yourself away from your obsessive mentality, you can see what virtually amounts to the tampering to which I referred. The author that wrote the book on the Rutier case donates all the funds from that book to freeing Darlie Routier because the jury wasnt shown a lot of evidence of the medical issues Darlie suffered. Another thing that stumps me is Joannes supposed good friend who said that Joanne told her she was leaving Andrew. And your contention that you (me) as ONE person are wrong, let me say that while you seem to be determined in singling me out as someone whos opinion is one against the rest, is hopelessly exaggerated. DNA tests proved the blonde hairs were hers. Sign up for our newsletter to keep reading. 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Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports is also available on YouTube, but it costs $1.99 to view (Keith comes off as an advocate for Patricias innocence on the episode). Plus, two men, her babys father and his friend, testified they saw Patricia at the line-dancing club the night of the homicide. Just as there is no such thing as the perfect murder, there is also no such thing as the perfect murder investigation. MY STATE OF MIND is based on factual information. So would judge and jury say. They portray heavily slanted and biased shows. If I see anything that offers a differing opinion or is inaccurate, I think its entirely fair I should say my piece. Andrew also stated that when Pat called and Joann answered she had instructed her not to call again because they were married and they were happy. One on one? None. When she stood trial that same year, she maintained her innocence and alleged that she and Andrew Katrinak had continued to stay in touch as good friends, so she wouldn't do anything to hurt him. The organization purports that if there were awards for distorted reporting, the Morning Callwould win high honors.. But unfortunately other than God only two people know exactly what really happened and one is not alive. No show. YouTubes privacy policy is available here and YouTubes terms of service is available here. In TV clips, Andrew didnt come off as anguished. Calling her ex because she just likes to stay in touch w peopleLOL! Just one example. Ive scanned through of all my remarks on this site and nowhere have a seen a single remark that confirms your assertion that Ive been insulting. His father confirmed his alibi that they were doing construction work together, putting an addition on the house of friends Tom and Kathy Holschwander, at the time of Joanns disappearance. All 3 of her alibis were lies, DNA tied her to the murder, there was no sexual assault, she had a violent past, was obsessed with Andy, and was caught lying about owning a gun, which coincidentally jammed after firing once and shell cases were found on her property. Its true that women were more idiots than about men, they had the impression that if they caught a fool to take them as wives, they would settle for life, even today we see that but more diluted, still an exaggerated reason for murder. According to Pennsylvania State Police, Rorrer met Andrew Katrinak, the husband and father of the victims, in 1986. It says that Andrew reported the cut phone lines and broken pad lock was reported to the police at 10:30. They released a poster of Joann and Alex, noting that the baby had almond-shaped blue eyes, weighed 18 pounds, and was circumcised. Andrew mentioned to police that his former live-in girlfriend Patricia Rorrer once managed a horse stable two miles from the bodies location and would have been familiar with the riding trails close to the murder scene. Interesting thought about the alibi timing. Her jealousy and rage because Joann told her to not contact her husband set her off. Perhaps she used more than one gun using another/others for the target shooting than the one she killed with (and others shot with her?) Women murder for all kinds of reasons, but the simple facts come down to this.there was physical evidence, the bullet wound matched that of the gun Pat owned, the hairs were Pats and at both scenes, and she had no alibi and she had lied to try and come up with one.and lets not forget the damning words she spoke to her 18 month old daughter that the officer had the common sense to document. But defense lawyer Robert Pfeiffer said that plenty of evidence supported Patricias innocence. The media love the femme fatale., FBI lab blunder. This woman was obsessed and jealous. Patricia had a violent past and was absolutely positively the killer. Incriminating words. They also revealed that the Duke had pleaded with the King for an increased Royal responsibility as he feels 'he deserves to still be treated like a senior royal'. By continuing to use our site, you consent to the placement of cookies on your browser and agree to the terms of our Privacy Policy. Youll have to make do with what you see here. Inside the locked 1992 vehicle, police discovered some strands of blond hair stained with dried blood. 5 years prior to all this happening! Rorrer, formerly of the Phillipsburg and High Bridge areas, was living in Linwood, North Carolina,. In April 1995, the family buried Joann and Alex in a single bronze casket after a funeral mass at a Bethlehem church. Perhaps youre not aware, there was a great deal of evidence of which these documentaries made no mention, as well as misdeeds and incidents of corruption perpetrated by the cops. Lieutenant Christopher Coble and Sergeant Suzanne Pearson would later testify that Patricia cried and apologized to 18-month-old Nicole, telling the baby, Im sorry for doing this to you and lamenting to the officers that she would never see little Nicole again. They depict scenes which are pure speculation or exaggeration or present scenes, which in fact were only theories mentioned at her trial. During Patricias hours-long turn in the witness chair, Michael McIntyre grilled her relentlessly. She was so obsessed with Andy that she called him non-stop, multiple times a day, right? Neighbors saw police cars in her driveway and acquaintances heard rumors about her previous boyfriends.The intrigue peaked Tuesday at 5:50 a.m., when deputies and Pennsylvania State Police surprised and arrested Rorrer, 33, at home. Arkansas (1) Colorado (4) Connecticut (1) Pennsylvania (2) Virginia (2) Refine Your Search Results. Prince Andrew was seen smiling while riding a horse this morning despite tensions with King Charles who reportedly asked him to leave Royal Lodge. She killed a mother and child and now has all of you eating out of the palm of her hand about how mistreated she has been. Joann would have fought for her life the person that did this would have had marks on them from a fight! After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. 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(renews at {{format_dollars}}{{start_price}}{{format_cents}}/month + tax). Im quite happy to accept that ANYONE who makes a TV documentary makes it for money. DNA testing revealed the blood came from either Joann or her son. 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The hair evidence is not compelling because theres a very good possibility that the evidence was compromised. One more thing acquire ALL the facts about this case If you can read. I agree. You people are fighting a losing cause! You have permission to edit this article. What a contrived case! A two-year investigation results in the arrest of a Linwood woman. Her mother was married to my uncle. Claps! She only spoke on the phone with him a couple of times a year; when she called that last time, she didnt even know if Andys child was a boy or a girl, and the baby was almost 4 months old. Despite the fact it has never been proved thats exactly how it happened, it seems to be accepted as fact it could just as possibly have been the other way round, beaten and then shot. She would also have no heart when it comes to children, not even her own. She made Joanne kill the baby PLEASE. Mr Steve J And in a piece of salacious testimony, Patricia Rorrers half sister, Sandra Ireland, said that in May 1995, about six months after the murder, their mother, Patricia Chambers, stopped by the house and asked her to hold onto or hide a gun, or both. I saw lots of her defenders saying that he got the hairs from a hairbrush of hers that he had somehow saved, which I thought was absolutely ridiculous. There is no justice for your loved ones when the wrong person is paying for the crime. Well, at least you managed some sense there when you say that, especially when you take into account the amount of evidence and witnesses which were withheld from the Defence and what appears to be a clear case of evidence-tampering. Quote if I had known I would get caught, I would never have brought you into this world. Pat to Nicole her daughter. Your pathetic attempt to insult not only shows a not very original comment, but clearly displays a lack of intelligence. Her alibi about going to the club, called Cowboys Nitelife, got fuzzy when investigators discovered she hadnt signed the guest book on that day. Early in the investigation, the hairs found in the car were sent (in glass slides) to several laboratories including the FBIs. Well, at least you managed some sense there when you say that, especially when you take into account the amount of evidence and witnesses which were withheld from the Defence and what appears to be a clear case of evidence-tampering.
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